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What ASUS Mainboards support Barton
CPUs?
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The ASUS
CPU Support pages tell this:
Name
|
PCB
Version
|
BIOS
|
A7N8X
|
1.04
|
1002
|
A7N8X
Deluxe
|
1.04
|
1002
|
A7V333
|
2.00
|
1016
|
A7V333-X
|
2.01
|
1003
|
A7V8X
|
1.04*
|
1011
|
A7V8X-X
|
ALL
|
ALL
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*Only with a FSB333 sticker on south bridge.
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What is the fastest CPU that I can
use in an A7V Classic (KT133 Chipset, 100Mhz FSB / FSB200)
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As this has been
asked often: The fastest CPUs that can be used in an A7V "classic"
are the Athlon Mod. B (100Mhz FSB) 1.3Ghz and 1.4Ghz. Also the newest
Durons up to 1.3Ghz. See the footnote "FID info" on settings
for 1.3Ghz and 1.4Ghz Athlon Mod.B. Use one of the newer BIOSes.
(e.g 1008 or newer) There's a new website under construction which
will list actual CPU compatibility and incompatibility reports from
A7V users: www.conram.com
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Will a AthlonXP run in a A7V / A7V133
/A7V266 etc. that does not officially support it?
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The AthlonXP
might work on non-AthlonXP compatible A7V series Mainboards, too
- even on the old A7V KT133. The newer A7V BIOSes, for example,
include code to support the AthlonXP and Duron 1Ghz and up. But
noone will guarantee that it will work - so don't count on it. You
might get almost any AthlonXP to boot, but that does not mean it
will run stably and reliably. I read that AMD told people that the
AthlonXP will only run reliably with 133Mhz FSB - so unlocking it
and running at 100Mhz FSB with higher multiplier might get you into
trouble.
In my
opinion this compatibility or incompatibility comes from the fact
that between Athlon and AthlonXP the specification for the processor
bus has been changed. As far as I know for AthlonXP so called "L-C-L"
Filters are needed, which are NOT implemented on older mainboards.
Without these filters it depends on how the production tolerances
of CPU, Chipset, Mainboard etc. affect each other. Either it does
simply not boot, it works unstably, or it works perfectly. Noone
can tell you if your combination will work - even if others have
had success with a certain combination, it might or might not work
for you. So only try using AthlonXPs on mainboards that are 100%
fit for the purpose (see tables and links below). If you want to
try on a not officially compatible board, than be prepared to run
into trouble.
Especially
on the A7V the biggest drawback is it's low FSB of 100Mhz, while
AthlonXPs are designed fior 133Mhz. So the resulting speed at a
given multiplier is lower than it should be. Overclocking the FSB
is a very bad idea in my opinion, because on one hand the A7V doesn't
overclock well, on the other hand FSB overclocking overclocks everything
- from RAM to IDE. Only do so if you regard the data on your PC
as expendable.
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What about Multipliers above 12.5
with Athlon CPUs (NOT AthlonXP) ?
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The multiplier does NOT depend on the
mainboard, it does depend on the CPU.
"normal" FSB200 or FSB266 CPUs have multipliers ranging
from 5X to 12.5X.
There are only two exceptions known to me:
FSB 200 1.3Ghz Athlons interpret 12.5 as 13
FSB 200 1.4Ghz Athlons interpret 5 as 14
It's the CPU doing this, and there's no way altering a CPU to do
this interpretation.
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Which Mainboards do support AthlonXP?
Which do support Duron 1Ghz and up?
Which support "Thoroughbred"?
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Here is the most recent List by ASUS:
Official,
General ASUS CPU Support list
AthlonXP (Thoroughbred) Ready Mainboards
AthlonXP
(Palomino) Ready Mainboards
Duron (Morgan) 1Ghz and faster ready Mainboards
Mainboard
|
Athlon
XP "Palomino"
|
Athlon
XP "Thoroughbred"
|
Support
|
min.
Revision*
|
min.
BIOS
|
Support
|
min.
Revision*
|
min.
BIOS
|
A7V333
|
Yes
|
-
|
-
|
Yes
|
1.01
|
1004
|
A7V266-E
/ EX**
|
Yes
|
-
|
1002
|
Yes
|
-
|
1007
|
A7V266**
|
Yes
|
1.05
|
1002C
|
Yes
|
1.05
|
1007
|
A7V133
|
Yes
|
1.05.
|
1007
|
Yes
|
1.05.
|
1009
|
A7V133-C
|
Yes
|
1.05.
|
1007
|
Yes
|
1.05.
|
1009
|
A7V133-M
|
Yes
|
-
|
1004
|
no
|
1.01
|
-
|
A7V133-VM
|
Yes
|
2.0
|
1004
|
no
|
2.0
|
-
|
A7VL133-VM
|
Yes
|
2.0
|
1004
|
no
|
2.0
|
-
|
A7V
|
no
|
-
|
-
|
no
|
-
|
1010a
|
A7V-E
|
no
|
-
|
-
|
no
|
-
|
-
|
A7PRO
|
no
|
-
|
-
|
no
|
-
|
-
|
A7VI-VM
|
no
|
-
|
-
|
no
|
-
|
-
|
A7VL-VM
|
no
|
-
|
-
|
no
|
-
|
-
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*To find out your mainboard revision, have a look between
the PCI slots. There is a printing with the name of your Mainboard,
next to it is the revision number. Note that there might be a dot
after the number - it is important! "1.05" is not the
same as "1.05.", the latter is newer.
**A7V266
and A7V266-E: set Jumper"PALO_FREQ" to the Palomino Jumper-Settings:
PALO_FREQ (FID0-3) = 1-2
; If you want to multiplier overclock maybe you have to leave
it at 2-3.
Leave the THEM_CPU Jumper
at "Athlon/Duron" !
Theoretically THEMCPU = 2-3
makes the A7V266 use the on-die thermal diode - but this does not
work!
Better leave THEMCPU at 1-2.
Setting it to 2-3 will attempt to use the on-die diode, but almost
certainly give wrong readings around 50°C - 53°C, regardless
of actual temperature.
For all other supported
Mainboards leave all Jumpers on factory default (Jumperless):
For Example A7V133:
JEN = 2-3
DSW Switches 1-5 = OFF
DSFID Switches 1-6 = OFF
Make sure your Power Supply is sufficiently
dimensioned. It should be able to provide at least 300W!
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What CPU may I use in my Mainboard?
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This is translated from ASUS
Germany:
Question:
I want to upgrade my A7V series Mainboard with a new CPU, which
ones may I use?
Answer:
See the following table. BEFORE upgrading get the latest
final BIOS, especially with older boards it might be better to
get the latest BETA BIOS.
For AthlonXP also
see the table on top of this page!
Typ
|
CPU Name
|
Model
|
Socket
|
Freq. ( MHz
)
|
FSB (MHz)
|
L2
|
DIE
|
Vcore
|
D |
Duron
("Spitfire")
|
Mod.
3 |
Socket
A |
550
- 950 |
100
(200**) |
64k |
0.18m |
1,60V |
E |
Duron
("Morgan")
|
Mod.
7 |
Socket
A |
900
- 1300 |
100
(200**) |
64k |
0.18m |
1,75V |
Typ
|
CPU Name
|
Model
|
Socket
|
Freq. (Mhz)
|
FSB (MHz)
|
L2
|
DIE
|
Vcore
|
F
|
Athlon PGA
"B"
("Thunderbird")
|
Mod. 4
|
Socket A
|
650 - 1400
(see
footnote for FID info!)
|
100 (200**)
|
256k
|
0.18m
|
1,7V / 1,75V
|
G
|
Athlon PGA
"C"
("Thunderbird")
|
Mod. 4
|
Socket A
|
1000 - 1400
|
133 (266**)
|
256k
|
0.18m
|
1,75V
|
Typ
|
CPU Name
|
Model
|
Socket
|
Quantispeed ( see bottom)
|
FSB (MHz)
|
L2
|
DIE
|
Vcore
|
H |
Athlon
XP
("Palomino") |
Mod. 6 |
Socket
A |
1500+
to2100+ |
133
(266**) |
256k |
0.18m |
1,75V |
K |
Athlon
MP
("Palomino")
|
Mod. 6 |
Socket
A |
1000+
to 2000+ |
133
(266**) |
256k |
0.18m |
1,75V |
L |
Athlon
XP
("Thoroughbred")
|
Mod.
8 |
Socket
A |
1700+ to 2200+ |
133
(266**) |
256k |
0.13m |
1,50V - 1.60V |
M |
Athlon
MP
("Thoroughbred")
|
Mod.
8 |
Socket
A |
2100+ |
133
(266**) |
256k |
0.13m |
1,60V |
|
Mainboard |
Mainboard |
FSB (MHz) |
CPU Type (see above) |
Socket A ( 133 / 266*
) |
Revision* |
100 / 200** |
133 / 266** |
D
Duron
<1Ghz
|
E
Duron
>=1Ghz
|
F
Athlon
FSB100
|
G
Athlon
FSB133
|
H
Athlon XP
|
K
Athlon MP
|
L
Athlon XP Thorough-bred
|
M
Athlon MP Thorough-bred
|
A7V333 |
All |
OK
|
OK
|
OK
|
OK
|
OK
|
OK
|
OK
|
OK
|
OK
|
?
|
A7V266 |
All |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
? |
A7V266-C |
All |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
? |
A7V266-E |
All |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
? |
A7V266-EX |
All |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
? |
A7V266-M |
All |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
? |
Socket A ( 133 / 266*
) |
Revision* |
100 / 200**
|
133 / 266**
|
D
|
E
|
F
|
G
|
H
|
|
|
|
A7V133 /
A7V133-C |
1.05. & above |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
? |
A7V133 /
A7V133-C |
1.00 - 1.05 ( without
trailing dot!) |
OK |
OK |
OK |
M |
4 |
OK |
M |
M |
? |
? |
A7V133-M |
All |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
4 |
OK |
2 |
OK |
? |
? |
A7V133-VM
|
All |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
2 |
OK |
? |
? |
A7VL133-VM |
All |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
OK |
2 |
OK |
? |
? |
Socket A ( 100 / 200* ) |
Revision* |
100 / 200**
|
133 / 266**
|
D
|
E
|
F
|
G
|
H
|
|
|
|
A7V-E |
All |
OK |
X |
OK |
M |
4 |
X |
X |
X |
X |
X |
A7V |
All |
OK |
X |
OK |
OK |
4 |
X |
X |
X |
X |
X |
A7pro |
All |
OK |
X |
OK |
M |
4 |
X |
X |
X |
X |
X |
A7S-VM |
All |
OK |
X |
OK |
X |
OK |
X |
X |
X |
X |
X |
A7VI-VM |
All |
OK |
X |
OK |
OK |
OK |
X |
X |
X |
X |
X |
A7VL-VM |
All |
OK |
X |
OK |
OK |
OK |
X |
X |
X |
X |
X |
A7V-M |
All |
OK |
X |
OK |
OK |
OK |
X |
X |
X |
X |
X |
All data as of 4.5.2002
*To find out your mainboard revision, have a look between
the PCI slots. There is a printing with the name of your Mainboard,
next to it is the revision number. Note that there might be a dot
after the number - it is important! "1.05" is not the
same as "1.05.", the latter is newer.
|
Explanations |
200**
|
100 Mhz FSB Double Data Rate, both clock edges are used for
transferring data |
266**
|
133 Mhz FSB Double Data Rate, both clock edges are used for
transferring data |
xxxx+ |
With
Athlon XP the numbers given on the CPU (
Quantispeed ) are NOT MHz Values: |
2200+ |
Athlon
XP 2200+ = 1800 Mhz (13,5x 133MHz) |
2100+ |
Athlon
XP 2100+ = 1733 Mhz (13,0x 133MHz) |
2000+ |
Athlon
XP 2000+ = 1666 Mhz (12,5x 133MHz) |
1900+ |
Athlon
XP 1900+ = 1600 Mhz (12,0x 133MHz) |
1800+ |
Athlon
XP 1800+ = 1533 Mhz (11,5x 133MHz) |
1700+ |
Athlon
XP 1700+ = 1466 Mhz (11,0x 133MHz) |
1600+ |
Athlon
XP 1600+ = 1400 Mhz (10,5x 133MHz) |
1500+ |
Athlon
XP 1500+ = 1333 Mhz (10,0x 133MHz) |
OK |
CPU is generally supported |
X |
CPU
is
generally NOT supported |
? |
CPU is being tested at the moment |
M |
Set
the multiplier ( FID ) for this
CPU manually via DIP-Switch
(
JUMPERMODE
),
else the system might not boot. Also see "FID Info"
below. Jumperless Mode shouldn't / can't be used in this case.
This is true even if the CPU is not unlocked (has a hardwired
multiplier)
|
L |
The Athlon
XP is
only supported on this Mainboard (revision) if it not unlocked
(has a locked / hardwired multiplier)
|
2
|
At
the moment only Athlon
XP CPUs
up to 2000+ are supported on
this mainboard. |
4 |
The
Athlon 1.4
GHz/200 ( 14x 100MHz ) is only supported on this mainboard (revision)
if it not unlocked (has a locked / hardwired multiplier). CPUs
up to Athlon 1300 B ( 13x 100Mhz) may be used without restrictions. |
FID
Info |
Multipliers
(FID 5,0x to 12,5x ) for manual setting of FID via DIP-Switch can
be found in your manual.
Multiplier 13,0x is identical with 12,5x
(true for 1300Mhz/100FSB Parts only!)
Multiplier 14,0x is identical with
5,0x (true for 1400Mhz/100FSB Parts
only!) |
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